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Vitalik Buterin和Charles Hoskinson Spar在技術Twitter討論中進行了ZK-PROFFORVE DEAWN

2025/05/22 20:15

以太坊聯合創始人Vitalik Buterin和Cardano創始人Charles Hoskinson迅速炸毀的Ethereum聯合創始人Vitalik Buterin和Cardano之間的技術討論

A casual technical discussion on X (formerly Twitter) between Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterin and Cardano founder Charles Hoskinson quickly blew up into a wider critique of blockchain design, governance, and the practical, real-world viability of zero-knowledge (zk) proof systems.

以太坊聯合創始人Vitalik Buterin和Cardano創始人Charles Hoskinson對X(以前為Twitter)進行了隨意的技術討論,迅速爆發出對區塊鏈設計,治理以及實用的,現實世界中的零知識(ZK)系統的更廣泛的批評。

It all began with a mathematical musing from Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterin, who explored the theoretical efficiency of distributing zk proof workloads across multiple provers.

這一切始於以太坊聯合創始人Vitalik Buterin的數學沉思,他探索了在多個掠奪者中分發ZK證明工作負載的理論效率。

“A fun math aside, on the idea of splitting a large zk proving workload between multiple provers. Suppose we have $N$ provers, and we have a proving workload that we split into $N$ parts (so, one part per prover). We require provers to pre-register, but registration is…

“除了一個有趣的數學,關於將大型ZK劃分為多個攤販之間的大型ZK的想法。假設我們有$ n $掠奪者,並且我們有一個證明的工作量,我們將我們分為$ n $零件(因此,每個個人兒的一部分)。我們要求攤販預註冊,但是註冊是…...

Buterin proposed that by using open-access registration and fault-tolerant retries, the system could achieve verification in logarithmic star time–a function that grows incredibly slowly.

Buterin提出,通過使用開放式登記和容忍斷層的重試,該系統可以在對數星形時間中實現驗證 - 這種功能可以緩慢增長。

Buterin’s ZK-Proof Math Sparks Hoskinson’s Real-World Rebuttal

Buterin的ZK-PROFFROOD MATH SPRING SPRIPS HOSKINSON的現實反駁

While the math was elegant, Charles Hoskinson quickly pounced on its real-world impracticalities, calling the model naive in the face of adversarial attacks, cloud failure risks, and hardware bottlenecks.

雖然數學優雅,但查爾斯·霍斯金森(Charles Hoskinson)迅速對其現實世界中的不切實際行為poun,這使該模型在面對對抗性攻擊,雲故障風險和硬件瓶頸時天真。

Hoskinson didn’t just pick apart the math; he used the opening to paint a bigger picture of what he views as Ethereum’s systemic flaws. He argued that Buterin’s proposed retry model for zk-proofs would crumble when faced with Sybil attacks, where bad actors could spin up thousands of fake provers just to jam the network.

霍斯金森不僅挑選數學;他用開口描繪了他認為以太坊的系統缺陷的更大畫面。他認為,當面對Sybil攻擊時,Buterin提出的針對ZK-Proforms的重試模型將崩潰,那裡的演員可能會旋轉成千上萬的假掠奪者,以堵塞網絡。

This, he explained, is because the hefty hardware demands of actual zkEVM circuits make a super-quick three-second retry loop unworkable. He also red-flagged the risk of network self-sabotage, where escalating retries could flood the system with unneeded bandwidth and computational burdens.

他解釋說,這是因為實際ZKEVM電路的大量硬件要求使超級快速的三秒鐘重試循環無法正常工作。他還紅色標記了網絡自我破壞的風險,在這種情況下,不需要的帶寬和計算負擔會在該系統中升級。

Cardano vs. Ethereum: Governance and Layering Philosophies Clash Again

Cardano vs.以太坊:治理和分層哲學再次發生衝突

This isn’t the first time Hoskinson has positioned Cardano as a more grounded alternative to Ethereum.

這不是霍斯金森第一次將卡爾達諾定位為以太坊的替代方案。

Back in September 2024, he criticized Ethereum’s governance, comparing it to a “dictatorship” and emphasizing how Cardano’s Voltaire-era overhaul avoids the extremes of both Bitcoin’s minimalism and Ethereum’s founder-centric approach.

早在2024年9月,他就批評以太坊的治理,將其與“獨裁政權”進行了比較,並強調了卡爾達諾(Cardano)的伏爾塔爾(Voltaire-aver-avolto)時代的大修如何避免比特幣極簡主義和以太坊以以太坊的以創始人為中心的方法的極端。

Buterin, on the other hand, has not remained idle. Facing growing scrutiny over Ethereum’s reliance on Layer-2 networks like Arbitrum and Optimism, he recently proposed a bold Layer-Zero upgrade.

另一方面,Buterin並沒有保持閒置。面臨越來越多的審查以太坊對仲裁和樂觀等第2層網絡的依賴,他最近提出了大膽的層零升級。

This next-generation architecture would replace the Ethereum Virtual Machine with a zkVM based on RISC-V standards, dramatically improving efficiency.

這種下一代體系結構將根據RISC-V標準替代以太坊虛擬機,從而極大地提高效率。

According to preliminary estimates, the upgrade could slash proof sizes from 346MB to just 1.5MB, reduce computation cycles by over 95%, and boost transaction throughput up to 30-fold using GPU acceleration.

根據初步估計,該升級可能會將證明大小從346MB削減到僅1.5MB,將計算週期降低超過95%,並使用GPU加速度將交易吞吐量最大提高30倍。

Yet, Hoskinson remains skeptical of Ethereum’s direction. He argues that an overreliance on Layer-2s siphons value away from the base layer, risks fragmentation, and leaves Ethereum vulnerable to being overtaken by more robust alternatives or even Bitcoin.

然而,霍斯金森仍然對以太坊的方向持懷疑態度。他認為,對第二層虹吸管的過度依賴偏離基礎層的價值,風險碎裂,使以太坊很容易被更強大的替代方案甚至比特幣所取代。

He has gone so far as to claim Ethereum may not survive the next 15 years if it continues along this path.

他甚至聲稱,如果以太坊沿著這條道路繼續下去,那麼在接下來的15年中可能無法生存。

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