當Dean Skurka在2018年加入Bitbuy時，該平台只有四名員工，幾千名用戶和約2500萬美元的交易量。

快速前進到今天，Skurka現在負責Wonderfi：一家合併了加拿大多個交易所，擁有170萬個帳戶的公司，並守護了20億美元的客戶資產。

When Dean Skurka joined Bitbuy in 2018, the platform had only four employees, a few thousand users, and about $25 million in trading volume.

當Dean Skurka在2018年加入Bitbuy時，該平台只有四名員工，幾千名用戶和約2500萬美元的交易量。

Fast-forward to today, Skurka now oversees WonderFi: A company that’s consolidated multiple Canadian exchanges, boasts 1.7 million accounts, and guards $2 billion in client assets.

快速前進到今天，Skurka現在負責Wonderfi：一家合併了加拿大多個交易所，擁有170萬個帳戶的公司，並守護了20億美元的客戶資產。

But Skurka isn’t just sitting on a domestic empire—he’s building outward.

但是斯科卡不僅坐在一個國內帝國上，而且還在向外建造。

In a conversation with CoinDesk, WonderFi’s president and CEO, Dean Skurka, detailed his company’s next chapter: launching a Layer 2 blockchain in partnership with zkSync and expanding into Australia, a country he says “checks both boxes” of regulatory clarity and strong adoption. He also discussed the outlook for centralized exchanges and how Canada's crypto landscape is changing.

Wonderfi總裁兼首席執行官Dean Skurka與Coindesk的對話詳細介紹了他公司的下一章：與Zksync合作推出了第2層區塊鏈，並擴展到澳大利亞，他說這個國家的“檢查兩個框”是監管機構的清晰度和強有力的採用。他還討論了集中交流的前景以及加拿大加密貨幣景觀的變化。

Here is an edited and shortened version of his conversation with CoinDesk, ahead of his appearance at Consensus 2025 in Toronto.

這是他與Coindesk的對話的編輯和縮短版本，此前他在多倫多的2025年共識之前。

Layer 2 push

第2層推

The centralized exchange said in February that it is launching a Layer 2 blockchain based on ZKsync to connect its users to decentralized finance (DeFi).

集中式交易所在2月表示，它正在基於ZKSYNC推出2層區塊鏈，以將其用戶連接到分散的金融（DEFI）。

“When we think about the long-term trend across the industry, we see a really strong synergy between centralized exchanges, where the users are originating or the assets are originating, and giving them a seamless bridge to everything that's happening on chain today.”

“當我們考慮整個行業的長期趨勢時，我們看到了集中式交流，用戶發起或資產的原始趨勢，並為他們提供了無縫的橋樑，可以使他們成為當今連鎖店發生的一切。”

Skurka says WonderFi’s knowledge of running trading platforms, regulatory credibility, and asset base gives it an edge over a plethora of other Layer 2s connecting DeFi.

Skurka說，Wonderfi關於運行交易平台，監管信譽和資產基礎的知識使其比其他第2層連接Defi的副本具有優勢。

Unlike some other rival Layer 2 chains launched with splashy token incentives or VC hype, Skurka says WonderFi’s approach is more grounded and long-lasting. It plans to foster long-term use through builder incentives, hackathons and ecosystem support.

Skurka說，與其他一些競爭對手的2連鎖店不同，Skurka說Wonderfi的方法更加紮根和持久。它計劃通過建造者激勵措施，黑客馬拉松和生態系統支持來促進長期使用。

Centralized vs decentralized exchanges

集中式與分散交流

Rather than viewing decentralized exchanges as competitors for centralized exchanges, Skurka sees them as extensions. Centralized exchanges provide the bridge for first-time users to go from buying and selling crypto on regulated and trusted platforms to on-chain activities that open up more innovative new products that exist in the crypto ecosystem.

Skurka並沒有將分散的交易所視為集中交流的競爭對手，而是將其視為擴展。集中式交流為初次用戶提供了從購買和銷售的受監管和受信任平台上的加密貨幣的橋樑，到鏈上活動，這些活動打開了加密生態系統中存在的更具創新性的新產品。

“[Centralized exchanges] are building out the components that will allow their users to seamlessly interact on chain, but at the same time building up the the capabilities on the exchange side to look more akin to traditional financial service products, which we think will create incremental value on both sides over the next 5 to 10 years,” he said.

他說：“ [集中式交流]正在建立允許其用戶在鏈條上無縫互動的組件，但同時建立交換方面的功能，以看起來更類似於傳統的金融服務產品，我們認為這將在未來5到10年中在雙方創造漸進式價值。”

Evolution of crypto in Canada

加拿大加密的演變

WonderFi is a dominant exchange in Canada, and able to observe how the crypto landscape is changing in the country.

Wonderfi是加拿大的主要交易所，能夠觀察該國的加密貨幣景觀如何變化。

Canada has a strong crypto history—Ethereum and the first spot bitcoin ETF were both born there. It was also one of the first countries to have a regulatory framework for crypto trading platforms.

加拿大擁有悠久的加密歷史 - Ethereum和第一個位置比特幣ETF都出生在那裡。它也是最早擁有加密交易平台監管框架的國家之一。

“Some of the more innovative products and services that exist within this space have moved offshore or outside of Canada because of the lack of clarity around those products and services,” he said, pointing to products such as DeFi applications, Layer 2 blockchains and derivatives.

他說：“由於這些產品和服務缺乏清晰度，該領域中存在的一些更具創新性的產品和服務已在加拿大的海上或境外移動。”

WonderFi is now aiming to change that, after working closely with Canadian regulators to create trading and staking guidelines.

Wonderfi與加拿大監管機構緊密合作以創建交易和存放指南之後，旨在改變這一目標。

“We are working hand in hand with regulators to give them comfort on some of these newer, more innovative products and services, and hopefully that will encourage entrepreneurs, builders, developers, to really stay in Canada and build products with confidence,” Skurka added.

Skurka補充說：“我們正在與監管機構齊頭並進，使他們對這些更新，更具創新性的產品和服務中的一些，這將鼓勵企業家，建築商，開發商真正留在加拿大並充滿信心地製造產品。”

And with the U.S. now becoming more open to crypto and many exchange-traded funds open to investors, the mindset in Canada is starting to shift as well. WonderFi, which has been a mostly retail-dominated platform, is now seeing interest from Canadian institutional investors such as family offices and private equities who want exposure to digital assets.

隨著美國現在對加密貨幣的開放，許多交易所交易的資金向投資者開放，加拿大的心態也開始發生變化。 Wonderfi是一個主要是零售主導的平台，現在正在看到加拿大機構投資者（例如家庭辦事處和想要接觸數字資產的私人股票）的興趣。

“​​I think that's been a really big shift over the last year, and that's something [institutional investors' interest] that we expect to really accelerate in the next few years,” Skurka said.

Skurka說：“我認為這在過去的一年中是一個很大的轉變，這是我們期望在未來幾年內真正加速的[機構投資者的利益]的事情。”

Australia and beyond

澳大利亞及以後

Skurka isn't stopping at Canada; he is looking to expand his company's reach to other regions, starting with Australia—a country Skurka describes as having “clear, concise regulation” and a strong crypto adoption rate.

Skurka沒有在加拿大停下來；從澳大利亞開始，他希望將公司的影響範圍擴大到其他地區，這是一個國家的Skurka所說的“清晰，簡潔的法規”和強大的加密採用率。

"Australia was a really good market for us to target initially, and from there, we'll really look for other markets," Skurka said.

斯科爾卡說：“澳大利亞最初是我們目標的一個非常好的市場，從那裡開始，我們將真正尋找其他市場。”

The mighty volatility

強大的波動

Like the crypto's 24/7 nature, a CEO's job in this fast-paced industry is never done.

就像加密貨幣的24/7自然一樣，這一快節奏行業的首席執行官工作也從未完成。

In Skurka's case, it's exactly what keeps him up at night: volatility— something that shapes the industry perception and sentiments.

就Skurka而言，這正是使他在夜間起床的原因：波動性 - 塑造了行業的感知和情感。

"It's probably just the short-term volatility that really impacts the outlook on the business and has an impact on the users, the staff, and the team morale. And so it's really just something that we really

“這可能只是短期波動確實影響了業務的前景，並對用戶，員工和團隊的士氣產生了影響。因此，這確實是我們真正的事情