当Dean Skurka在2018年加入Bitbuy时，该平台只有四名员工，几千名用户和约2500万美元的交易量。

快速前进到今天，Skurka现在负责Wonderfi：一家合并了加拿大多个交易所，拥有170万个帐户的公司，并守护了20亿美元的客户资产。

When Dean Skurka joined Bitbuy in 2018, the platform had only four employees, a few thousand users, and about $25 million in trading volume.

当Dean Skurka在2018年加入Bitbuy时，该平台只有四名员工，几千名用户和约2500万美元的交易量。

Fast-forward to today, Skurka now oversees WonderFi: A company that’s consolidated multiple Canadian exchanges, boasts 1.7 million accounts, and guards $2 billion in client assets.

快速前进到今天，Skurka现在负责Wonderfi：一家合并了加拿大多个交易所，拥有170万个帐户的公司，并守护了20亿美元的客户资产。

But Skurka isn’t just sitting on a domestic empire—he’s building outward.

但是斯科卡不仅坐在一个国内帝国上，而且还在向外建造。

In a conversation with CoinDesk, WonderFi’s president and CEO, Dean Skurka, detailed his company’s next chapter: launching a Layer 2 blockchain in partnership with zkSync and expanding into Australia, a country he says “checks both boxes” of regulatory clarity and strong adoption. He also discussed the outlook for centralized exchanges and how Canada's crypto landscape is changing.

Wonderfi总裁兼首席执行官Dean Skurka与Coindesk的对话详细介绍了他公司的下一章：与Zksync合作推出了第2层区块链，并扩展到澳大利亚，他说这个国家的“检查两个框”是监管机构的清晰度和强有力的采用。他还讨论了集中交流的前景以及加拿大加密货币景观的变化。

Here is an edited and shortened version of his conversation with CoinDesk, ahead of his appearance at Consensus 2025 in Toronto.

这是他与Coindesk的对话的编辑和缩短版本，此前他在多伦多的2025年共识之前。

Layer 2 push

第2层推

The centralized exchange said in February that it is launching a Layer 2 blockchain based on ZKsync to connect its users to decentralized finance (DeFi).

集中式交易所在2月表示，它正在基于ZKSYNC推出2层区块链，以将其用户连接到分散的金融（DEFI）。

“When we think about the long-term trend across the industry, we see a really strong synergy between centralized exchanges, where the users are originating or the assets are originating, and giving them a seamless bridge to everything that's happening on chain today.”

“当我们考虑整个行业的长期趋势时，我们看到了集中式交流，用户发起或资产的原始趋势，并为他们提供了无缝的桥梁，可以使他们成为当今连锁店发生的一切。”

Skurka says WonderFi’s knowledge of running trading platforms, regulatory credibility, and asset base gives it an edge over a plethora of other Layer 2s connecting DeFi.

Skurka说，Wonderfi关于运行交易平台，监管信誉和资产基础的知识使其比其他第2层连接Defi的副本具有优势。

Unlike some other rival Layer 2 chains launched with splashy token incentives or VC hype, Skurka says WonderFi’s approach is more grounded and long-lasting. It plans to foster long-term use through builder incentives, hackathons and ecosystem support.

Skurka说，与其他一些竞争对手的2连锁店不同，Skurka说Wonderfi的方法更加扎根和持久。它计划通过建造者激励措施，黑客马拉松和生态系统支持来促进长期使用。

Centralized vs decentralized exchanges

集中式与分散交流

Rather than viewing decentralized exchanges as competitors for centralized exchanges, Skurka sees them as extensions. Centralized exchanges provide the bridge for first-time users to go from buying and selling crypto on regulated and trusted platforms to on-chain activities that open up more innovative new products that exist in the crypto ecosystem.

Skurka并没有将分散的交易所视为集中交流的竞争对手，而是将其视为扩展。集中式交流为初次用户提供了从购买和销售的受监管和受信任平台上的加密货币的桥梁，到链上活动，这些活动打开了加密生态系统中存在的更具创新性的新产品。

“[Centralized exchanges] are building out the components that will allow their users to seamlessly interact on chain, but at the same time building up the the capabilities on the exchange side to look more akin to traditional financial service products, which we think will create incremental value on both sides over the next 5 to 10 years,” he said.

他说：“ [集中式交流]正在建立允许其用户在链条上无缝互动的组件，但同时建立交换方面的功能，以看起来更类似于传统的金融服务产品，我们认为这将在未来5到10年中在双方创造渐进式价值。”

Evolution of crypto in Canada

加拿大加密的演变

WonderFi is a dominant exchange in Canada, and able to observe how the crypto landscape is changing in the country.

Wonderfi是加拿大的主要交易所，能够观察该国的加密货币景观如何变化。

Canada has a strong crypto history—Ethereum and the first spot bitcoin ETF were both born there. It was also one of the first countries to have a regulatory framework for crypto trading platforms.

加拿大拥有悠久的加密历史 - Ethereum和第一个位置比特币ETF都出生在那里。它也是最早拥有加密交易平台监管框架的国家之一。

“Some of the more innovative products and services that exist within this space have moved offshore or outside of Canada because of the lack of clarity around those products and services,” he said, pointing to products such as DeFi applications, Layer 2 blockchains and derivatives.

他说：“由于这些产品和服务缺乏清晰度，该领域中存在的一些更具创新性的产品和服务已在加拿大的海上或境外移动。”

WonderFi is now aiming to change that, after working closely with Canadian regulators to create trading and staking guidelines.

Wonderfi与加拿大监管机构紧密合作以创建交易和存放指南之后，旨在改变这一目标。

“We are working hand in hand with regulators to give them comfort on some of these newer, more innovative products and services, and hopefully that will encourage entrepreneurs, builders, developers, to really stay in Canada and build products with confidence,” Skurka added.

Skurka补充说：“我们正在与监管机构齐头并进，使他们对这些更新，更具创新性的产品和服务中的一些，这将鼓励企业家，建筑商，开发商真正留在加拿大并充满信心地制造产品。”

And with the U.S. now becoming more open to crypto and many exchange-traded funds open to investors, the mindset in Canada is starting to shift as well. WonderFi, which has been a mostly retail-dominated platform, is now seeing interest from Canadian institutional investors such as family offices and private equities who want exposure to digital assets.

随着美国现在对加密货币的开放，许多交易所交易的资金向投资者开放，加拿大的心态也开始发生变化。 Wonderfi是一个主要是零售主导的平台，现在正在看到加拿大机构投资者（例如家庭办事处和想要接触数字资产的私人股票）的兴趣。

“​​I think that's been a really big shift over the last year, and that's something [institutional investors' interest] that we expect to really accelerate in the next few years,” Skurka said.

Skurka说：“我认为这在过去的一年中是一个很大的转变，这是我们期望在未来几年内真正加速的[机构投资者的利益]的事情。”

Australia and beyond

澳大利亚及以后

Skurka isn't stopping at Canada; he is looking to expand his company's reach to other regions, starting with Australia—a country Skurka describes as having “clear, concise regulation” and a strong crypto adoption rate.

Skurka没有在加拿大停下来；从澳大利亚开始，他希望将公司的影响范围扩大到其他地区，这是一个国家的Skurka所说的“清晰，简洁的法规”和强大的加密采用率。

"Australia was a really good market for us to target initially, and from there, we'll really look for other markets," Skurka said.

斯科尔卡说：“澳大利亚最初是我们目标的一个非常好的市场，从那里开始，我们将真正寻找其他市场。”

The mighty volatility

强大的波动

Like the crypto's 24/7 nature, a CEO's job in this fast-paced industry is never done.

就像加密货币的24/7自然一样，这一快节奏行业的首席执行官工作也从未完成。

In Skurka's case, it's exactly what keeps him up at night: volatility— something that shapes the industry perception and sentiments.

就Skurka而言，这正是使他在夜间起床的原因：波动性 - 塑造了行业的感知和情感。

"It's probably just the short-term volatility that really impacts the outlook on the business and has an impact on the users, the staff, and the team morale. And so it's really just something that we really

“这可能只是短期波动确实影响了业务的前景，并对用户，员工和团队的士气产生了影响。因此，这确实是我们真正的事情