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埃利斯(Ellis)首先承认比特币完全匿名的神话。他告诉Pompliano:“人们可能以为比特币是匿名的,但是我会说这是假名的,对吗?这不是真正的匿名。”
Recently sworn-in Deputy Director of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Michael Ellis offered an unusually forthright assessment of Bitcoin's role inside the national-security apparatus in a conversation with podcast host Anthony Pompliano.
最近,美国中央情报机构(CIA)宣誓就职副主任迈克尔·埃利斯(Michael Ellis)在与播客主持人安东尼·帕塞里亚诺(Anthony Pompliano)的对话中,对比特币在国家安全机构中的角色进行了异常直率的评估。
Why The CIA Is Excited About Bitcoin
为什么中央情报局对比特币感到兴奋
Ellis began by acknowledging the myth that Bitcoin is fully anonymous. “People may have thought Bitcoin was anonymous, but I’d say it’s pseudonymous, right? It’s not truly anonymous,” he told Pompliano. That distinction, he continued, has flipped early criminal enthusiasm into an unexpected boon for investigators. “We are … excited as well because … there’s a lot of work that we do with law enforcement to try to track illicit crypto payments by bad actors.”
埃利斯(Ellis)首先承认比特币完全匿名的神话。他告诉Pompliano:“人们可能以为比特币是匿名的,但我会说这是假名的,对吗?它不是真正的匿名。”他继续说,这种区别使早期的犯罪热情陷入了对调查人员的意外福音。 “我们也很兴奋,因为……我们与执法部门有很多工作,试图跟踪坏演员的非法加密付款。”
The Deputy Director refused to single out Bitcoin as uniquely dangerous. “Bad actors, whether they’re drug cartels or terrorist groups or outlaw regimes, use cryptocurrency, but they used other tools as well,” he said, listing “dollars,” “cars,” and even “toner cartridges for their printers” as mundane equivalents. “Doesn’t mean we say we should ban all of those.”
副董事拒绝将比特币视为独特的危险。他说:“不好的演员,无论他们是毒品卡特尔还是恐怖组织还是取缔政权,都使用加密货币,但他们也使用了其他工具,”他说,将“美元”,“汽车”,甚至是“打印机”的“汽车”,甚至是“打印机”作为平凡的等价物。 “并不意味着我们说我们应该禁止所有这些。”
Ellis then delivered the line that will echo through policy circles: “Bitcoin is here to stay. Cryptocurrency is here to stay.” Institutional adoption, he argued, is now an irreversible “trend … one that this administration has obviously been leaning forward into.” For the intelligence community, the stakes are geopolitical. “It’s another area of technological competition where we need to make sure the United States is well positioned against China and other adversaries … we need to make sure that we are a leader in these fields internationally and not a laggard.”
然后,埃利斯(Ellis)交付了通过政策界回荡的线路:“比特币将留在这里。加密货币将留在这里。”他认为,机构采用现在是一种不可逆转的“趋势……这个政府显然一直在向前倾斜的趋势”。对于情报界来说,赌注是地缘政治。 “这是技术竞争的另一个领域,我们需要确保美国对中国和其他对手的位置很好……我们需要确保我们在国际上是这些领域的领导者,而不是落后者。”
Pompliano pressed him on the dual-use nature of open-source payment rails. Ellis embraced that framing. “We use technology as a tool, and Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are another tool in the toolbox. It’s also a target,” he explained, noting that the blockchain ledger can simultaneously “disrupt our adversaries’ use” of funds and “collect more intelligence to gather more information about them.”
Pompliano向他施加了开源付款轨道的双重使用性质。埃利斯(Ellis)拥抱了这一框架。他解释说:“我们将技术用作工具,比特币和其他加密货币是工具箱中的另一个工具。它也是一个目标。”他指出,区块链分类帐可以同时“破坏我们的对手的资金使用”并“收集更多智能来收集更多信息。”
Behind the operational talk lies a culture war playing out inside Langley. “There’s a little bit of a generational shift and a cultural shift going on that Director Burns and I are leading the way on,” Ellis conceded. “Not everyone in government … has these attitudes around new technologies. People are sort of trapped in an older mindset sometimes and we have to break through that and realize this idea that cryptocurrency is for people who have something to hide— that’s just not right.”
在兰利(Langley)内进行的文化战争背后是一场文化战争。埃利斯承认:“这是世代相传的转变和文化上的转变,导演伯恩斯和我正在领先。” “并不是政府中的每个人……对新技术都有这些态度。有时人们会被困在一个较旧的心态中,我们必须突破这一点,并意识到这一想法,即加密货币是针对那些有东西要隐藏的人,这是不对的。”
Pompliano laughed that Ellis sounded like “the in-house Bitcoiner.” If the Deputy Director’s remarks prove anything, it is that the CIA no longer regards Bitcoin merely as a curiosity on the dark web. Instead, the agency views it as a permanent fixture of global finance—simultaneously a surveillance vector, an intelligence resource, and, perhaps, a competitive arena in which national power will be measured.
Pompliano笑着说Ellis听起来像是“内部比特币”。如果副董事的言论证明了任何事情,那么中央情报局不再仅将比特币视为对黑暗网络的好奇心。取而代之的是,该机构将其视为全球金融的永久性固定装置,这是一种监视向量,情报资源,也许是一个竞争激烈的舞台,可以在其中衡量国家权力。
At press time, BTC traded at $95,132.
发稿时,BTC的交易价格为95,132美元。
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