亦来云：富有远见的 Web3 项目，利用加密货币创造社会影响

亦来云正在印度尼西亚开展一个项目，用社区产生的太阳能来交换碳信用额。

Harvard Innovation Labs will soon begin incubating the New Bretton Woods Project (NBW), a DeFi-powered initiative tackling the global debt crisis. The DeFi infrastructure will be powered by the Bitcoin Layer 2 Network (BeL2), an auxiliary blockchain creation of the Elastos foundation.

哈佛创新实验室即将开始孵化新布雷顿森林项目（NBW），这是一项由 DeFi 驱动的解决全球债务危机的计划。 DeFi 基础设施将由比特币第 2 层网络（BeL2）提供支持，这是 Elastos 基金会的辅助区块链创建。

The New Bretton Woods program aims to create a BTC-backed stablecoin, ensuring its legality in all US states despite varying state laws. The tokenomics of the stablecoin will be available in a few weeks, according to Hargreaves.

新布雷顿森林计划旨在创建一种由比特币支持的稳定币，确保其在美国所有州的合法性，尽管各州法律各不相同。哈格里夫斯表示，稳定币的代币经济学将在几周内推出。

In an interview with Varuni Trivedi, Coin Republic’s Editor-in-Chief, discussed Elastos’ vision, mission, RWAs, decentralization, and more with Jonathan Hargreaves, who leads the Business Development and ESG aspects of Elastos. Here are some key highlights:

在接受 Coin Republic 主编 Varuni Trivedi 采访时，他与领导亦来云业务开发和 ESG 方面的 Jonathan Hargreaves 讨论了亦来云的愿景、使命、RWA、去中心化等。以下是一些主要亮点：

The Wait for a Decentralized World

等待去中心化世界

Describing himself as part of the ‘2% of the world’s population that finds joy in solving the complexity of web3,’ Jonathan Hargreaves is from the era that saw the change happen before their eyes. He was an advisor to the Web Science Trust, then overseen by Tim Berners Lee, the creator of the World Wide Web (at Europe’s Particle Physics Laboratory CERN).

乔纳森·哈格里夫斯 (Jonathan Hargreaves) 将自己描述为“世界上 2% 的人口在解决 web3 的复杂性中找到乐趣”的一部分，他来自见证了变革发生在他们眼前的时代。他是网络科学信托基金的顾问，然后由万维网的创建者蒂姆·伯纳斯·李（在欧洲粒子物理实验室欧洲核子研究组织）监督。

According to Hargreaves, decentralization is a fundamentally radical change, and he emphasized its potential with several examples.

哈格里夫斯认为，去中心化是一个根本性的彻底改变，他用几个例子强调了它的潜力。

“Fundamental tech takes longer to implement. Fundamentally, changing the infrastructure takes time. When you do, it really changes everything. That’s the journey we are on,” said Hargreaves.

“基础技术的实施需要更长的时间。从根本上来说，改变基础设施需要时间。当你这样做时，它真的会改变一切。这就是我们正在走的旅程，”哈格里夫斯说。

A tipping point will be reached when decentralized infrastructure becomes a clear alternative to existing infrastructure, which he estimates will happen in around 3 to 5 years. Over the next two years, Elastos will focus on materializing data ownership and decentralized finance solutions.

当去中心化基础设施成为现有基础设施的明显替代品时，就会达到一个转折点，他估计这将在大约 3 到 5 年内发生。未来两年，亦来云将专注于实现数据所有权和去中心化金融解决方案。

Elastos’ Vision and Mission

亦来云的愿景和使命

“It’s your money, it’s your bank, you’re the person in charge using these technologies with how you get rewards from the system. And that’s really the crux of it.” However, John added that that’s just Finance; their vision extends to commerce and much more.

“这是你的钱，是你的银行，你是使用这些技术以及如何从系统中获得奖励的负责人。这确实是问题的关键。”然而，约翰补充说，这只是财务；他们的视野延伸到商业等领域。

There’s a credit crisis in developing countries such as Brazil. Hargreaves pointed out that in Brazil, farmers were paying interest rates as high as 90%. He added that street vendors in India could benefit from a peer-to-peer financial network.

巴西等发展中国家存在信贷危机。哈格里夫斯指出，在巴西，农民支付的利率高达90%。他补充说，印度的街头小贩可以从点对点金融网络中受益。

“In this model, it’s really about how do you incentivize people using the basis of crypto to actually change behaviors or be educated so that they can get access to a better credit rate.”

“在这个模型中，真正的问题是如何激励人们使用加密货币的基础来真正改变行为或接受教育，以便他们可以获得更好的信用率。”

According to Hargreaves, NBW is a project that envisions using cryptocurrency as an instrument to create social impact.

Hargreaves 表示，NBW 是一个设想使用加密货币作为创造社会影响的工具的项目。

“The vision at the highest level is really about how we use cryptocurrencies in a positive way to actually impact global economies.”

“最高层的愿景实际上是关于我们如何以积极的方式使用加密货币来真正影响全球经济。”

Elastos is working on a project in Indonesia where the solar power generated by a community is traded for carbon credits. Hargreaves makes it clear that Elastos wants to create social impact and is sharply focused on the weakest communities.

亦来云正在印度尼西亚开展一个项目，用社区产生的太阳能来交换碳信用额。哈格里夫斯明确表示，亦来云希望创造社会影响，并重点关注最弱势的社区。

The point was, he said, that the system of rewarding value in the form of crypto extends to other sectors, such as education, not just sustainability.

他说，重点是，以加密货币形式奖励价值的系统扩展到其他领域，例如教育，而不仅仅是可持续发展。

“How do you build a decentralized system in the community so that the solar energy can be taken from that community and put into a crypto token and actually then convert it into a carbon credit, which is then exchanged with those people. So those people who are building mines and airports exchange with the community… “

“如何在社区中建立一个去中心化系统，以便可以从该社区获取太阳能并放入加密代币中，然后实际上将其转换为碳信用额，然后与这些人进行交换。所以那些建造矿山和机场的人与社区进行交流……”

He noted that since Elastos is Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) compatible, the benefits of crypto can be extended across verticals. Hargreaves stressed that decentralization must be looked at from the community perspective.

他指出，由于亦来云与以太坊虚拟机（EVM）兼容，因此加密货币的好处可以跨垂直领域扩展。哈格里夫斯强调，必须从社区的角度来看待权力下放。

Regulations, Complexity, and FUD are Major Roadblocks

法规、复杂性和 FUD 是主要障碍

Regulations, the complicated user interface of web3 applications, and fear, uncertainty, & Doubt (FUD) are major roadblocks to adoption, notes Jonathan

Jonathan 指出，法规、web3 应用程序复杂的用户界面以及恐惧、不确定性和怀疑 (FUD) 是采用的主要障碍

While discussing major roadblocks to adopting decentralized systems, Hargreaves referred to the case of India. Demand for credit services in India is high. However, the regulatory environment in the country is ‘cautious.’ Regulators in countries like India have to protect citizens from being exploited or cheated while they gradually educate themselves about new technology.

在讨论采用去中心化系统的主要障碍时，哈格里夫斯提到了印度的案例。印度对信贷服务的需求很高。然而，该国的监管环境是“谨慎的”。印度等国家的监管机构必须保护公民在逐渐了解新技术的同时不被剥削或欺骗。

However, a cautious regulatory approach shouldn’t curtail the inflow and growth of innovation, Hargreaves noted. He emphasized that a stubborn stance would prevent citizens from accessing the benefits of decentralization and crypto.

然而，哈格里夫斯指出，谨慎的监管方法不应限制创新的流入和增长。他强调，顽固的立场将阻止公民获得权力下放和加密货币的好处。

There are examples of these new radical technologies not being used well, ‘often actually in centralized models,’ he noted.

他指出，有一些例子表明这些新的激进技术没有得到很好的使用，“实际上通常是在集中式模型中”。

While regulations are necessary, so is empowerment. Hargreaves highlights a potential use case of web3 technology with an example of decentralized identity or DID in Nigeria. In Nigeria, Football scouts are on the lookout for children, offering opportunities in Sports in Europe. Parents can scan the decentralized identity and confirm if the scout is an officially registered one.

监管固然必要，但赋权也同样必要。 Hargreaves 以尼日利亚的去中心化身份或 DID 为例，强调了 web3 技术的潜在用例。在尼日利亚，足球童子军正在寻找儿童，为他们提供参加欧洲体育运动的机会。家长可以扫描去中心化身份，确认童子军是否是正式注册的童子军。

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