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Buterin的评论是对开发商Uma Roy发表的帖子的回应,后者宣布她的团队已实现实时以太坊证明
In a recent post on X, a social media platform formerly known as Twitter, Ethereum co-founder Vitalik Buterin expressed his skepticism towards a major breakthrough in zero-knowledge (ZK) technology.
在X上的最近的一篇文章(以前称为Twitter的社交媒体平台)中,以太坊联合创始人Vitalik Buterin对零知识(ZK)技术的重大突破表示怀疑。
Buterin's comments came in response to a post from developer Uma Roy, who announced that her team at StarkWare had achieved real-time Ethereum proving, an accomplishment many in the cryptography community considered a "moonshot" just a year ago.
巴特林的评论是回应开发商乌玛·罗伊(Uma Roy)的一篇文章的回应,后者宣布她在Starkware的团队已经实现了实时以太坊证明,这是一年前的加密社区中的许多成就。
Roy's post, which quickly amassed over a million views and 60,000 likes, highlighted the persistent efforts of her team and the StarkWare company to overcome performance gaps and verification hurdles.
罗伊(Roy)的帖子迅速积累了超过一百万的观看次数和60,000个赞,强调了她的团队和Starkware公司的持续努力,以克服绩效差距和验证障碍。
The post concluded with a video showcasing a real-time prover, capable of processing transactions at speeds relevant for Layer 1 integration.
该帖子以视频结束,展示了一个实时鄙分,能够以与第1层集成相关的速度处理交易。
Buterin, known for his contributions to the blockchain space, raised several concerns regarding the technology's readiness for production.
布特林(Buterin)以对区块链领域的贡献而闻名,他对该技术的生产准备就绪引起了一些担忧。
"The good news is, this is truly amazing progress, and we're getting close to the types of performance figures that would be useful for integrating into the base protocol," Buterin stated.
Buterin说:“好消息是,这确实是惊人的进步,我们正在接近对集成到基本协议中有用的性能类型的类型。”
However, he pointed out that the current proving system only accounts for average-case scenarios and does not yet address worst-case performance, something necessary for reliable and secure Layer 1 implementation.
但是,他指出,当前的证明系统仅考虑平均情况方案,并且尚未解决最坏情况的性能,这对于可靠且安全的第1层实现所需的是。
Moreover, Buterin emphasized the lack of formal verification, meaning the system has not undergone rigorous mathematical proof to guarantee its correctness.
此外,布特林强调缺乏正式验证,这意味着该系统没有经过严格的数学证据来保证其正确性。
"In the high-stakes world of crypto, especially for a chain like Ethereum with its core structure and financial risk, this is a critical weakness," Buterin added.
Buterin补充说:“在加密的高风险世界中,尤其是对于具有核心结构和财务风险的以太坊等连锁店,这是一个关键的弱点。”
Buterin also noted the high energy consumption of the system, which reportedly uses around 100 kilowatts of power, making it impractical for general-purpose or home-based use.
Buterin还指出,该系统的高能量消耗据报道,该系统使用了大约100千瓦的功率,因此对于通用或家庭用途而言,它是不切实际的。
"Ideally, we'd want a system that can fit on a machine with around 10 kilowatts of capacity, Buterin said, adding that "if the prover can be small enough to put in someone's house, we can also have more decentralized proving, e.g., with a new prover every epoch."
“理想情况下,我们需要一个可以适合具有约10千瓦大约容量的机器上的系统,Buterin说,并补充说:“如果供摊子足够小,可以放入某人的房子里,我们还可以拥有更多的分散证明,例如,例如,每个时代都有一个新的卖淫者。”
Finally, Buterin touched upon Ethereum's long-term scaling goals, specifically plans to increase the Layer 1 gas limit by 10x to 100x.
最后,布特林谈到了以太坊的长期扩展目标,特别计划将第1层气体限制提高到10倍至100倍。
"To handle that kind of gas limit, we'd need the chain to be able to process about 1000 to 4000 transactions per second, on average, throughout the whole epoch (64k blocks). But to get to 10x to 100x gas limit, we'd need even more optimization in the proving performance."
“要处理这种气体限制,我们需要链条能够在整个时期(64K块)中平均每秒处理约1000至4000笔交易。但是,要达到10倍至100x气体限制,我们需要在证明性能中进行更多优化。”
Despite these concerns, Buterin expressed his admiration for Roy and her team's work, which he described as "awesome."
尽管有这些担忧,但布特林对罗伊和她的团队的工作表示钦佩,他称这是“很棒的”。
"Still lots of work to do to get to the point where we can use this in the base protocol, but this is still a huge milestone in the amazing progress of the zkbchain space."
“仍然需要做很多工作才能达到我们可以在基本协议中使用它的地步,但这仍然是Zkbchain空间的惊人进步的巨大里程碑。”
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